There are now, what, six different articles about femcels floating around different media websites? This is a message to anyone who found their way to thepinkpill through those articles.
What the articles don't stress is that objective beauty absolutely exists, and so does objective ugliness.
Femcels are defined by ugliness. Real ugliness. It's not in our heads. We don't have BDD. We are just ugly and unattractive. Being an ugly and unattractive woman doesn't make you a bad person though. Yet society collectively likes to think so.
Certain aspects of the femcel experience (social shunning, loneliness, bullying, lookism etc.) are relatable, but just because you have experienced them at times does not automatically make you a femcel.
To repeat: femcels are women who are objectively ugly. "Ugly" is often used as an insult towards women, but here we use it as an objective truth. Femcels will have extreme difficulty getting a serious boyfriend/girlfriend and the vast majority will never marry due to their looks. If you were able to get a boyfriend in the past/present and have had men ask you out, you are not a femcel. You are most likely a normie or low tier normie. The only time I was asked out by a boy was in middle school as a joke. He couldn't even finish asking me because he was laughing so hard.
Study after study has shown that Beauty is NOT in the eye of the beholder. Even six month old human infants can differenate between "ugly" faces and "beautiful" faces. No one is teaching these infants that beautiful faces are more interesting or nicer. Six month old babies don't even understand language or have control of their bodily functions yet they can tell when someone is hot or not. The infants are instinctively more interested in the beautiful faces and less interested in the ugly faces. Beauty is an instinct.
Beauty also transcends race. Beautiful women and handsome men look similar to other beautiful women and handsome men of other races. This is because all humans find certain traits attractive no matter what race someone is. Examples are: positive canthal tilt, symmetrical face, wide palate smile, straight nose bridge, etc. If you look at a group of beautiful women from different races they will look like multi-racial cousins. Their facial proportions will be the same, even if the particular features are different. Seriously, it looks like they all had the same grandmother or something.
To measure beauty we often use the 1 to 10 scale, with 1 being extremely ugly and 10 being extremely beautiful. The 1 to 10 scale is NOT like a school assignment where you need at least a 7/10 to get a normal grade. Most people you will see on a daily basis are 5/10. This is because looks are distributed along a bell curve like this: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xJ0ppilYqPc/UWL97BNIc0I/AAAAAAAAAVs/L_EewLX9lW8/s1600/hs.png
A score of 5/10 is a normal score.
However femcels are women who are 3/10 and below. Femcels will recieve harassment from men and women alike, and even the occasional child. Plastic surgery (aka "hardmaxxing") is needed to improve a femcel's looks. Makeup, skincare, fashion, and hair are NOT enough.
Men admit in private that they are unable to maintain an erection for women they consider 3/10 and below. This is why incels do not want to date femcels. They are not physiologically aroused by us. Even if they still attempt to have sex with us, they will be imagining a different woman in their head. This is where many "paper bag" jokes come from. See: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=paper%20bagging
Femcels are also not "butterfaces." In addition to having unattractive faces, we have unattractive bodies as well. "Butterfaces" will generally qualify as a type of low tier normie/regular normie.
Women who are considered 4/10 (aka "low tier normies") will have overlapping experiences with femcels. However low tier normies will be able to "softmaxx" using hair, makeup, skincare, and fashion to live a normalish life and gain a normalish boyfriend/husband/girlfriend/wife. Visit
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Please note: Using the 1 to 10 scale to rate yourself is NOT sexist! Men are just as easy to rate on the 1 to 10 scale like women. The 1 to 10 scale is the best way to convey your attractiveness without revealing your face online. Revealing your face online leaves you susceptible to doxxing and extreme harassment. No scale is going to be a perfect objective measure of beauty, but they are usually only 1-2 points off at their worst.
Example of the 1 to 10 scale for women:
Examples of the 1 to 10 scale for men:
Feel free to disagree with me, but please recognize that there are features that are objectively beautiful and there are features that are objectively ugly for both men and women.
Trying to gaslight an ugly women into believing she's normal or even beautiful is cruel when so much of a woman's life depends on how attractive she is. Recognizing we are ugly is not sexist. I think it's more sexist to demand that every woman on earth think of herself as beautiful despite all evidence to the contrary.
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"Femcels are defined by ugliness."
Um, by definition a femcel = female involuntarily celibate, someone who is celibate but doesn't want to be. And that's it. Can be for many reasons.
I'm not sure what would limit a woman's sexual options other than her attractiveness though? Men proudly disdain ugly women online. We are "boner-killers".
There are certain instances where an ugly woman has a man marry her, but it's rare. Usually it happens in strict religious communities.
What would prevent a normie woman from getting into a normal relationship? Can you explain more? Are you talking about mentalcels? Are are you talking about a normal woman with bad luck? I guess a normal woman with bad luck in relationships is technically involuntarily celibate. But her situation is not a life sentence. It's more like a dry spell.
I'm talking about "trufemcels" with genetic conditions and ugly anatomy instead of situational normies who fall into the femcel category due to bad luck. Perhaps I should have clarified. What other reasons were you thinking of?
let me enlighten you then.
I don't desire men that I don't feel connected to emotionally. It's all communicating vessel system. I cannot get turned on and it feels like rape. I've tried once being sexual with a man I was not inlove with. I ended up disgusted with myself and I've thrown the lingerie in the nearest bin when we got out of hotel. That was a really nice black lace corset and Victoria's Secret panties. I just didn't want to ever remind myself of this event. The guy wasn't even gross or old, he was short but hot. Middle East / Italian type. It felt just bad.
I've tried anything more times and I felt just as disgusted with myself. Like I wanted a shower immediately to wash him off me and erase my memory.
And since men don't create circumstances where I would fall in love - I was never really asked out, never really courted, they text me eggplant emoji instead of nice romantic, gramatically correct texts - I can either be disgusted with myself or celibate.
This dry spell lasts 28 years, lady. I was in bed with men I liked 3 times in my life. One used me for sex. Second was friends with his ex and I had to end it quickly before looking like a clown. Third was talking about Stacies in front of me.
hm, I'm hitting the wall, so, it IS a life sentence. No sex before 30 pretty much guarantees no sex after 30.
I can relate to you so much. Same goes for the many experiences femcels posted here. That's why I consider myself a femcel even if I'm "attractive". I can't seem to find someone to be interested in me long-term, because I don't feel comfortable sleeping with them too early on.
They don't get it: if you are not easy, even if you are beautiful or average, if you don't look like the "trends" or what's considered "hot" now and not follow the hook-up culture and are more reserved... oh well, you're fucked. You can be the most beautiful, it doesn't matter, no dude will wait for you in order to get sex.
I'm "attractive" as in the 1910-1940s sense so... modern dudes will see me as ugly, and the ones that seem "attracted" to me are sleazy creepy bastards with a fetish, that ghost me after 2 dates once they realize fucking isn't an option.
Regardless, another reason of why I consider myself a femcel is because, literally EVERYONE used me as their doormat, treated me like crap, from the teachers, to my family, my "friends" or people on the streets. I've had people comment on my hair, looks, clothes and so on.
I knew two girls in your shoes as well. I hate how some women here say to us "Oh, you must be ugly then", once they hear that we RELATE and EXPERIENCE the same shit. Nice, gaslighting there.
pretty women get ghosted all the time
https://www.tiktok.com/@fleeksie/video/7021801893894704390?is_from_webapp=v1&lang=en
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Isn't this due to your looks though? How attractive would you rate yourself from 1 to 10 with the chart as reference? Stacys get the romantic circumstances and love from men. Men put in effort for beautiful women. Ugly women and low tier normies just get harassed for sex and used as fleshlights. Normal women can occasionally experience this as well.
If you can't have sex unless you have a strong emotional connection, and no man is interested in forming a strong emotional connection with you due to your below-average looks, then your problem just comes back to your looks in the end.
So, I think your looks contribute to your situation. You sound like a 4/10? Or would you consider yourself a 5/10 with bad luck?
that's funny you've mentioned that.
NO. NOT A 4. NOT A 5. How I looked like: pretty much like Mila Kunis / Saorsie Ronan / Sophie Ellis Bextor / Megan Fox. I mean no shit. I was always thin, natural C cup, very accentuated waist. Green eyes, brown hair, pale skin like all the ladies mentioned. My lips tho were thinner. One guy said I resemble Winona Ryder, but he was inlove with me (and 10 years older, ugh) - I don't resemble Winona Ryder, she has dark eyes, I'm green. We're the same height tho.
Now I got a lip lift + lip fillers and my lips are Angelina Jolie size so that **really **adds up to my looks. I get complimented by men on my lips often. Plus I got endoscopic brow lift. Yes I panic about my looks anyway.
I think I give off "nice girl who is just happy with a picnic and a walk and is not materialistic" vibe much. But I also give off vibe "you can walk over me" in general and people of both sexes don't respect me. I give off the librarian vibe (which is so untrue, I'm just elegant and...religious).
Second thing is, I live in Eastern Europe, where men assume you NEED a man, any man, some man. My ex bf said Bridget Jones diary is about a fatty who can't get herself a man. So, men suppose you would just be happy if you HAVE a man and are not labeled as a future crazy cat lady.
And no, I don't cope.
I was called pretty and beautiful many many times in my life by men. Sometimes men on Tinder ask me if I'm fake profile.
that's also funny of you to assume.
Men think strong emotional connection is texting me about bulshit all day or calling me every day with nothing funny or wise or anything to say or baby talk or sending me memes or links to instagram posts or inviting me for a weekend on the lakes and I hate nature.
It's the librarian vibe.
yes, I'm not a Jessica Alba level, obviously. But I beat Katy Perry.
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